Curse

Dark Interception · Dec 15, 2006, 01:47 PM // 13:47

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Originally Posted by Legendary Ultimatum

No Dark, the worst part is they are for real and think they are "pros" and everyone who says they build is bad are "n00bs".

1*)W/E I'm using meteor shower on luxon !!!
2*)wtf a warrior using metero shower
1*) stfu n00b i 0Wn u in 1vs1

lol

Haha exactly

it actually makes me laugh when i see all those silly people in ab, here are some of my favorite screenies ..

amazing isnt it ..

bungusmaximus · Dec 15, 2006, 02:46 PM // 14:46

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Originally Posted by Patrick Smit

Long time I've not been playing AB, but IMHO AB is capping as long as you don't have the majority of shrines, while PVPing when you have the majority. I can split of as I do cap shrines alone, although it is not without risk ofcourse. I typically don't PVP unless we have all seven shrines, but then I just run a capping build.

The major mistake I think, is that many people go in pvp mode directly or to soon. or with wrong builds. Going in a mob is the same ignorance, you are just giving away points with your death. Wammo builds I leave for what they are, anyway these cannot cap as fast as I do, so why bother killing them, unless they are the last man standing.

Amen to that...

PyrAnkh · Dec 15, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57

I really feel that AB is worse than RA. The w/n life transfer warrior is almost a common sight. Normally i think w/n= plague touch....but aye. The fact remains that if you got a group of 3 good players from your guild, you can just take a pug cuz those 3 will win you the game anyways.

Divineshadows · Dec 15, 2006, 09:57 PM // 21:57

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Originally Posted by Riotgear

Ranger using Rodgort's Invocation still wins. I can't believe I missed the screenshot...

Been a long time since I've done AB, but I do play RA for the laughs I can get at opponents bars. Blowing an entire energy pool on a ranger for rodgort's invocation is just wow. Just a few of my personal favorite amusements from RA:

- Endure pain on an IW mesmer. Yeah, that temporary 90 extra health for all of 7 seconds was really worth the skill slot and is going to save you....

- Armor of earth on an assassin. I've seen this combo more than once I am sad to report. A 30 to 40% movement penalty just makes too much sense on a class whose entire concept is based on mobility.

- Warrior with primal rage, flare, and power attack. 3 of the worst skills in the game packed conveniently into a single bar! Pure pwnage!

- Mo/W with healing hands, mending, healing breeze, bonneti's defense, 3 axe attack skills. Unfortnately, this scrub happened to be on my team and when I saw Mo/W I was hoping for a competent build using the secondary for shield bash or balanced stance or riposte skills. I had a lengthy discussion with this player after our team lost miserably and it was just futile as I tried to explain that his build didn't really do anything. He argued that the build ensured he was the last on his team to die, which wasn't even the case in the one match I was paired with him (he died twice before anyone else on my team did only to be rezzed to die again later). My 20 minutes wasted talking to this player convinces me that Ensign's quote is right:

"Don't argue with idiots. They bring you to their level and beat you with experience."

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Originally Posted by PyrAnkh

I really feel that AB is worse than RA. The w/n life transfer warrior is almost a common sight.

Players can be every bit as bad in RA, but you are probably right that the percentage of bad players is higher in AB ever since Nightfall came out. Life transfer is the universal "I'm a scrub" elite of choice. I have seen players using every primary class run this elite except for a monk. What are these players thinking? OMG, an elite skill that gives degen and regen at the same time!!! Seriously, PvP would be a lot better if it gave a "You fail." error message if you tried to enter a competitive arena, AB, HA, or GvG with certain skills like mending, life transfer, or mystic regen on your bar.

shardfenix · Dec 16, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25

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Originally Posted by Divineshadows

Players can be every bit as bad in RA, but you are probably right that the percentage of bad players is higher in AB ever since Nightfall came out. Life transfer is the universal "I'm a scrub" elite of choice. I have seen players using every primary class run this elite except for a monk. What are these players thinking? OMG, an elite skill that gives degen and regen at the same time!!! Seriously, PvP would be a lot better if it gave a "You fail." error message if you tried to enter a competitive arena, AB, HA, or GvG with certain skills like mending, life transfer, or mystic regen on your bar.

You had me rolling with that whole paragraph. Kudos.

Jeff Highwind · Dec 16, 2006, 05:40 AM // 05:40

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Originally Posted by Dark Interception

I laughed so hard my roomates told me to shut the f**k up.

Riotgear · Dec 16, 2006, 07:18 AM // 07:18

Well, may as well contribute....

PyrAnkh · Dec 16, 2006, 09:31 AM // 09:31

You dont wanna know what i just met. A w/n using that chillblains/signet of agony/plague touch combo. needless to say he was low on energy in no time.

RA is fun while the ladder is frozen....talking about frozen, i also saw the snowman yesterday (you know, that awfull premade anet made once). W/E with frozenburst...this one was using sword skills tho. And what about the almighty n/e fire elementalist (did he think consume corpse was worth the primary necromancer?)

Riotgear · Dec 16, 2006, 10:03 AM // 10:03

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Originally Posted by PyrAnkh

And what about the almighty n/e fire elementalist (did he think consume corpse was worth the primary necromancer?)

In RA.... no idea.

In AB it almost makes sense because soul reaping goes nuts.

PyrAnkh · Dec 16, 2006, 10:27 AM // 10:27

It was RA. And now im frustrated, cuz i dragged my team consisting of 1 healing burst monk (with etheral light, RoF and PS), 1 r/mo with poison arrow and ressurect, and 1 flare spammer through 8 matches, to see them all leeroy the 9th. SIGH. What selfrespecting monk uses healing burst in the first place?

bungusmaximus · Dec 16, 2006, 02:12 PM // 14:12

Don't get me started about monks, PvP monking is one of the hardest things there is, still everyone thinks its easy

Dodo The Extinct · Dec 16, 2006, 02:34 PM // 14:34

PvP monking is not that hard. Its just stressful.

bungusmaximus · Dec 16, 2006, 02:54 PM // 14:54

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Originally Posted by Dodo The Extinct

PvP monking is not that hard. Its just stressful.

maybe thats a better way to put it, but most ppl collapse under stress. I monk myself, but preferable in PvE. I find it quite hard to shake off everything trying to kill me and to keep the team alive at the same time.

PyrAnkh · Dec 16, 2006, 03:06 PM // 15:06

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Don't get me started about monks, PvP monking is one of the hardest things there is, still everyone thinks its easy

As a monk in top50 GvGs, i think i have right of speech. Anyways, i lost again (2 monk team, both got killed 9th match, and 1 mo/e kinetic armor got pwned 7th match), so im giving up RA for now. Ill get that 1 glad point i need tru TA. Sigh. I did spot another noob in the wild: a w/e with immolate....teeeheee!

Phaern Majes · Dec 19, 2006, 11:10 PM // 23:10

I love my guilds rit team, we rarely die and constantly cap. Out of 20-30 battles we've lost 1 (which again we were constantly capping, and rarely died). Even had a couple compliments about our build

soupnazi · Dec 20, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16

ABs are fun for me, because it is there that I make the most random builds and use them. Ususally i get pwnt, but I have fun in the process. If you told me my build was a piece of crap, I would most likely agree, because most of the ones I make are. But that is all I use mine for is fun. Ive seen all kinds of warriors using ele or necro skills that they use "when ppl kite", which also makes me lol. But I do have standard builds (ie. barrage, rit lord, aod sin) that I use also.

But I will say this: some ppl have no clue. I hate most monks that AB, because they either have builds they dont know how to use effectively, or they have really really bad builds. When I tell them this, they usually say something along the lines of "Monking is hard stfu." Which i will grant, having monked before, however a bad monk build=dead teammates.

That pic of the ele using res made me lol too, only I woke up my sleeping sister >.<

bungusmaximus · Dec 20, 2006, 02:59 PM // 14:59

This whole thread is making me LMAO. On the other hand, there is also some hope. Yesterday I was home all day and I started AB-ing with some guildies. We are seasoned AB players but we met some really tough teams. When we walked out of the gate we met an other team of 4 and engaged it (we wanted the ele shrine and they were in the way). it took us the entire length of the game to take them out with 2 deaths on our side while we mostly just plough through everything. When the last guy finally dropped the kurzick counter hit 500 pts. The fight lasted for 20 minutes :P

Another time in saltspray beach I met a group with an insane trapper and a rit + assassin + domination mesmer. The other luxon teams were capping like crazy and they held the dragon roost, damn they held it good too. 8 players + minions couldn't kick them out of there and we lost due to the large numbers of deaths caused by people trying to beat them. When we left them alone they would just capture the res shrines and crawl back into their shelter.

Before I went to bed I did another game with some veteran GvG players, we worked our arse off to beat a more then decent group and if it wasn't for the excellent monking we would have been owned completely. I was able to get 3 spells off, as for the rest some domination mesmer had me by the nuts in quite a painful manner, couldn't kill him tho, he was too evasive

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Don't think I'm bragging, but I think it's a good proof of the presence of skilled players in AB matches. The longer factions is out the more interesting the matches get anyway, players get better at it too.

Giga Strike · Dec 20, 2006, 03:32 PM // 15:32

the reason kurzicks keep losing is becuase there are more of them. the larger number gives us a lower percentage of good players.

also it seems to me that the kurzicks win in ancestral and kaanai while the luxons win in the other places.

i cant say that monking in AB is very hard. i do it. it takes the luxons a sin, a warrior, and a searing flames ele to bring me down.

bungusmaximus · Dec 20, 2006, 03:41 PM // 15:41

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Originally Posted by Giga Strike

the reason kurzicks keep losing is becuase there are more of them. the larger number gives us a lower percentage of good players.

Hmm, maybe that explains the insane waining times sometimes as well, on the other hand, we don't loose that often actually

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Originally Posted by Giga Strike

also it seems to me that the kurzicks win in ancestral and kaanai while the luxons win in the other places..

True, but thats the map that makes the difference, not the players. Besides u must be confusing kaanai with frontier, because at kaanai we have a hard time winning most of the time

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Originally Posted by Giga Strike

i cant say that monking in AB is very hard. i do it. it takes the luxons a sin, a warrior, and a searing flames ele to bring me down.

Feel free to join our team sometimes

Probably you are one of the good ones.

Jeff Highwind · Dec 20, 2006, 04:55 PM // 16:55

I saw a 55 monk in AB once on the luxon side. I could not stop laughing when a mesmer fried his a$$.